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Revert "Stun batons cannot be turned on for 8 Seconds after being dropped" - #14429

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Revert "Stun batons cannot be turned on for 8 Seconds after being dropped"#14429
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@maxion12345 maxion12345 commented Jun 14, 2022

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Reverts #14322
SjEgeBY

also this was made contingent on one-hit batons being merged, and they were not merged (and hopefully will not be merged)
ergo, this really has no purpose besides being a really weird and specific sec buff (you are unrobust)

my point here is that this "buff" only applies to a very specific situation that can be easily avoided by anyone with more then 3 braincells playing security. Security shouldn't hugbox their players, because then the experience turns from "damn I got caught by a good sec member" to "damn I got caught by a bad sec member carried by game mechanics" and that isn't fun.

Literally just use the disabler, flashbangs, or the flash. If your first choice is "rush anteg with batong" you gonna learn today

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ghost commented Jun 14, 2022

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Yes. Merging shit that people don't like isn't a good thing, hope this will not get insta closed.

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JamieD1 commented Jun 14, 2022

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Reverts #14322 SjEgeBY

also this was made contingent on one-hit batons being merged, and they were not merged (and hopefully will not be merged) ergo, this really has no purpose besides being a really weird and specific sec buff (you are unrobust)

my point here is that this "buff" only applies to a very specific situation that can be easily avoided by anyone with more then 3 braincells playing security. Security shouldn't hugbox their players, because then the experience turns from "damn I got caught by a good sec member" to "damn I got caught by a bad sec member carried by game mechanics" and that isn't fun.

Literally just use the disabler, flashbangs, or the flash. If your first choice is "rush anteg with batong" you gonna learn today

Ill post a 2 page PDF explaining everything once council stuff is done :)

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Reverts #14322 SjEgeBY
also this was made contingent on one-hit batons being merged, and they were not merged (and hopefully will not be merged) ergo, this really has no purpose besides being a really weird and specific sec buff (you are unrobust)
my point here is that this "buff" only applies to a very specific situation that can be easily avoided by anyone with more then 3 braincells playing security. Security shouldn't hugbox their players, because then the experience turns from "damn I got caught by a good sec member" to "damn I got caught by a bad sec member carried by game mechanics" and that isn't fun.
Literally just use the disabler, flashbangs, or the flash. If your first choice is "rush anteg with batong" you gonna learn today

Ill post a 2 page PDF explaining everything once council stuff is done :)

We don't care that you have a 2 page PDF, we care about you not merging stuff people don't want. I doubt your document will change what people think

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ghost commented Jun 14, 2022

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Oneshot buttons are cringe. Even if they can't be used 8 seconds after being dropped.

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Hopekz commented Jun 14, 2022

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Your argument for this revert is weird.
You're saying that it only applies to a specific situation that "anyone with 3 brain cells" can avoid which means it is pointless either way.
You are making a revert to something that in your argument doesn't happen in normal gameplay.

That said: I don't like hugbox, but hugbox isn't new here in recent yogdev.

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Your argument for this revert is weird. You're saying that it only applies to a specific situation that "anyone with 3 brain cells" can avoid which means it is pointless either way. You are making a revert to something that in your argument doesn't happen in normal gameplay.

That said: I don't like hugbox, but hugbox isn't new here in recent yogdev.

i was more annoyed that he made this pr because of the one-hit batons and then merged it without one-hit batons and despite lots of players going 'is this really needed right now'

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ghost commented Jun 16, 2022

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It is actually not a nerf, it just makes something like: You shove a batton from an officer hands, pick it up, try to attack him with it... And get fucked, lol.

@JamieD1 JamieD1 added Awaiting - Vote - Council Awaiting the results of a council vote Awaiting - Action - HD Awaiting action from Jamie On hold - HD Should not be merged without HD Approval labels Jun 19, 2022
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It is actually not a nerf, it just makes something like: You shove a batton from an officer hands, pick it up, try to attack him with it... And get fucked, lol.

That’s.. that’s a nerf

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ghost commented Jun 19, 2022

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That’s.. that’s a nerf

No? It is a security weapon, that security officers get roundstart. This makes so that if you manage to somehow make them drop it... YOU SIMPLY CAN'T USE IT AGAINST THEM. Like, you can just walk with a stunbatton in hands in a hallway without any risk that someone can shove it out of your hands and then imidiately stunlock + kill you with it.

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That’s.. that’s a nerf

No? It is a security weapon, that security officers get roundstart. This makes so that if you manage to somehow make them drop it... YOU SIMPLY CAN'T USE IT AGAINST THEM. Like, you can just walk with a stunbatton in hands in a hallway without any risk that someone can shove it out of your hands and then imidiately stunlock + kill you with it.

Yeah so it's a nerf for everyone but security officers..

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ghost commented Jun 19, 2022

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Yeah so it's a nerf for everyone but security officers..

So it is a buff for security officers. And security buffs HARDLY, VERY HARDLY FUCKING SUCK.

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Yeah so it's a nerf for everyone but security officers..

So it is a buff for security officers. And security buffs HARDLY, VERY HARDLY FUCKING SUCK.

A buff or a nerf goes both ways.
So a security buff is an antagonist nerf and vice versa

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